[T2] Headlight problems

[Billiumboy]

LED lights do need polarity.  

> On Nov 7, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Pat Spragge/RFAN <Pat.Spragge at rfan.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On second thought it really wouldn't matter since a lamp isn't
> unidirectional.
> The power comes from the fuse via the gray wire to the driver side and the
> 2nd gray wire goes to the passenger side. The black with white goes to the
> turn lever as does the black with green. The circuits are open until the
> lever is pulled left or right.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Pat Spragge/RFAN <Pat.Spragge at rfan.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Bob, as long as the gray wire(s) 2 on driver side and 1 on passenger, I
> believe, goes to the same connection/location on both markers, driver and
> passenger, it should be ok. Preferably, the gray wire likely goes to the
> solder spot of the lamp and the black with white (driver side)goes to the
> lamp base. On the passenger side the wire is black with green?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I dropped the fuse box down to look at the numbers n the relays for
> Jamie. I have that meter that is suppose to find shorts in the wiring. It
> points to the driver's front signal/marker.
>>> 
>>> According to the schematic, the gray wire goes from connection #58 on
> both front markers to the first fuse in the fuse box. There is no number on
> the light housing. How do I figure out where that connection is?
>>> 
>>> Bob Pratt
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Pat Spragge/RFAN <Pat.Spragge at rfan.com>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bob,
>>>> 
>>>> "I had trouble with the turn signals and 4 way flashers when I first
> got the vehicle as they were blowing fuses. I somehow fixed the problem and
> didn't have any other problems until I replaced the headlights."
>>>> 
>>>> This statement provides a clue...when you say 'somehow fixed the
> problem...' I take it the lights just started working again without you
> doing much more than wiggling wires? Did you take any corrective action to
> fix the problem? Might be stating the obvious, but sounds like you have a
> short somewhere that reappeared after working on the headlights. These can
> be difficult to trace, since you typically keep blowing fuses every time
> the short is triggered.  There is a short tester that is used in these
> situations to help in tracing the shorting circuit. It temporarily replaces
> the fuse that is blowing.
>>>> You might check with your nearest FLAPS and see if they have one.
>>>> 
>>>> SG Tool Aid 25100 Short Tester by Tool Aid  ~$40
>>>> http://www.toolaid.com/products/electrical/short-finders
>>>> 
>>>> You can search on YouTube to see how it works.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pat
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From:        Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
>>>> To:        Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
>>>> Cc:        type2 at type2.com
>>>> Date:        11/04/2015 06:19 AM
>>>> Subject:        Re: [T2] Headlight problems
>>>> Sent by:        "type2" <type2-bounces at type2.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I got the headlights at VinageCarLeds. I was so used to driving at
> night with the brighter type lights on the family car, that when I took the
> bus out at night I couldn't see very well.
>>>> 
>>>> I had trouble with the turn signals and 4 way flashers when I first
> got the vehicle as they were blowing fuses. I somehow fixed the problem and
> didn't have any other problems until I replaced the headlights.
>>>> 
>>>> The first thing I did when I discovered the problem was reinstall the
> old headlights. It didn't fix the problem. Which makes me think I blew
> something somewhere.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm going to attempt to pull the fuse box down so I can take a look at
> the relays. Jamie wanted to know what the numbers on the relays were. Maybe
> I just need to change the relays to something that can handle the new style
> lights.
>>>> 
>>>> I remember 4 or 5 years back when people were changing to halogen
> lights there was a part that need to be changed or a new circuit that
> needed to be installed to handle the new lights, but I can't remember what
> it was and I can't find it in the archives.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob Pratt
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Kevin Guarnotta
> <kevin at guarnottadesign.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the LED headlights are just bringing to the front an issue
> that was probably there, you just didn't notice it. LED's are typically
> very sensitive to voltage variation, so they can issues that my remain
> hidden with regular lights - become readily apparent with LED's.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure about your bus - but I'd check under the dash - there
> are typically a few under there as well - ie if there is a headlight relay,
> or flasher relay - they need to be well grounded to the chassis. Also the
> ground on your battery. Sometimes it is the simple things. (I had issues
> with my truck for a while, intermittent starting etc, turned out the ground
> strap was a little loose on the battery.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then again - where did you find LED headlights? And why are you
> going with them?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Kevin Guarnotta
>>>>> Jamaica Plain, MA
>>>>> 
>>>>> ’78 Westy
>>>>> '69 Singlecab
>>>>> '65 Ez-camper
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Bob Pratt [mailto:ka1dza at verizon.net]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 5:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [T2] Headlight problems
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK. I've replaced of the ground connectors in the rear with new ones
> as they were loose and or broken. I've replace the ground connectors and
> housings on the front turn signals. I cleaned and reinstalled the ground
> strap from the frame to the transmission.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've considered buying a new harness, but they are expensive and
> they only go from the rear to the fuse box.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I can't understand is that all these problems started when I
> replaced the headlights with LEDs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob Pratt
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