[T2] turn signal cancellation

[Erik Burtis]

Chris,
I'll take a look at Bentley, but my flange is definitely at 14-1500.  It
works, so I ain't moving it lol.  I'll also see if I can grab the pics as
well.

Erik

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 6:55 PM c.dreike <c.dreike at verizon.net> wrote:

> Erik,
> Bentley says to position the steering wheel in the straight ahead position
> with the spokes at 9:00 and 15:00 with the cancel flange on the left side
> with the turn switch. That is how I set it up. And yes the turn signal
> switch will latch if the flange is not facing the switch ie on the right
> hand side with the ignition lock. This would work a little weird as the
> turn switch should cancel as the steering wheel returns to center. When the
> rain stops (I'm in the Los Angeles area) I'll try raising and lowering the
> TS switch and see if that helps. Bentley says there should be a 2-3mm space
> between the steering wheel and the top of the TS switch assembly.
>
> I could use a photo of the fuse box and how the wiring routes out the top
> to the ignition and TS assembly etc.... No hurry. I'm getting ready to go
> to the OCTO show in Long Beach this weekend with my 64 double door.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> On 2/13/2019 3:15 PM, Erik Burtis wrote:
>
> Chris,
> I'm not sure I'm understanding your situation fully. What do you mean by
> "the ring is located on the right".  It's the flange that cancels the
> signal, correct?  In my picture, the flange is under the steering wheel
> spoke as you said and my wheel is centered.  This puts the flange on the
> right side of my wheel (same side as the key) at about 2-3 o'clock - out of
> the way of the signal tabs.  In your original email, I believe you said
> this right side position works?
>
> Also, if my memory is not lying to me, the height of the turn signal
> switch can make difference.  Try raising the signal housing towards the
> steering wheel and then lowering it to see if your problem changes.
>
> Thanks.  To date, the tape is working just fine!  I love a simple solution.
>
> I can take a photo of the wiring, no problem.  Today is my long work day,
> so it won't happen till tomorrow or Friday.  Anything in particular you
> need photographed?
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 4:26 PM c.dreike <c.dreike at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Erik,
>> Good information. My cancel ring is in the same position as yours if I'm
>> seeing your photo correctly. The flange is under one of the wheel spokes.
>> If the steering wheel is centered with the spokes on the left and right,
>> then the ring will located on the left facing the turn signal switch. In my
>> case the little nubs don't seem to be able to push out far enough to allow
>> the mechanism to latch as they hit the cancel flange.
>>
>> Using the tape to tighten up the housing looks like a good choice to me.
>> Much easier than welding and grinding to fit.
>>
>> Any chance of wiring photos later on from under your dashboard?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>>
>> On 2/13/2019 12:58 PM, Erik Burtis wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>> If you look down at the steering wheel, it looks like my cancelling ring
>> is at 1400 on the clock. A little hard to tell from the pic (at work, no
>> bus to go see).  Check out the 3rd pic in this post (with the red arrow),
>> it's the best I can do for the moment.  Hope it helps.
>>
>>
>> https://zerotosixtyeventually.wordpress.com/2017/06/09/loose-turn-signal-switch-housing-a-quick-fix/
>>
>> Erik
>> '71 Westy
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:19 PM c.dreike <c.dreike at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I am reinstalling my steering column and ran into a problem with the
>>> turn signal cancellation. With the steering wheel installed per Bentley
>>> the cancel ring is on the left when the steering is centered. I cannot
>>> get the turn signals to stay on. It is as if the cancel ring is just a
>>> hair too close to the tabs on the turn signal switch and they cannot
>>> latch into position. If I turn the wheel so the tab is on the right,
>>> then the turn signal switch will latch and of course it cancels when the
>>> wheel is turned back to center. This all worked before I took it apart.
>>> Nothing appears to be bent or out of shape. I have a new aftermarket
>>> unit that does the same thing as the original VW unit.
>>> BTW I have the drag link disconnected so that I can spin the wheel
>>> easily.
>>> Anyone have ideas of what to look for or do?
>>>
>>> Also the PO did something with the under dash wiring and its a rats
>>> nest. Could anyone pmail me photos of what the wiring should look like?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>> 71 Sunroof
>>> 64DD Kamper Kit
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