[T2] Power loss in 4th
jules jules.herr at gmail.comWed Jan 20 16:15:42 MST 2016
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Avocado Tom Tarka <avocadotom at gmail.com> wrote: > Jules, > > As I mentioned in my previous email: the cooling fan intake is not > obstructed. > > Cool. (literally) how about those flaps under the shroud that are opened/closed by the thermostat. Do you have the thermo? is it installed? adjusted correctly? does it open completely when the engine warms up, and are the flaps open completely when the thermo is open? > My valves have been adjusted to spec and have not tightened or gone out of > spec in the last 50-75 miles of testing I've done. > > depending on your driving style and conditions that might not be enough to tell (especially in the winter). it seems like an odd strategy to potentially cause damage to a head, to possibly burn it out by driving a vehicle with an issue to see if it overheats - when one could diagnose the individual components in the cooling system in the driveway, with less risk, less work, and less chance of damage. Looking at the damage caused after the fact can be useful for determining why a catastrophic failure happened - But - it's much less useful as a diagnostic tool while the engine is still operational - especially if you want to keep it that way. Tom I think we'd love to see you get up and running, hopefully without doing further damage, please check your flaps so we can definitively eliminate it as a potential cause of your issue. there are many other factors that can make an ACVW engine run hot, these factors are additive, even multiplicative, so it may be a combination of many small factors, adding up to a larger issue. other potential cooling issue you might not have considered: thermo jammed, flaps stuck, flaps obstructed or completely missing. These are required - even if you plan to have the thermo always open - you MUST have the flaps in place - they don't just open and close - they direct the cooling air flow directionally towards the hot parts of the heads loose fan shroud or large gaps in the tinwork can cause large cooling air leaks and cooling loss. tape up the gaps, get the tinwork tight and sealed up. Seal up all the no longer used holes in the tinwork. make sure you've got the tube that the accelerator cable travels trough that's inserted into the tinwork, preferably with grommets so it makes a good tight air seal. Every little leak adds up The round seals/grommets around the tubes that go from fan shroud to your heater boxes often missing, also, if equipped there should be a pre-heated air intake to your air cleaner that comes up from around the muffler into the air intake - there should be a grommet here, and, if this intake passage is missing, as it most often is, it should be sealed up. any air leaks here can cause hot air from around the muffler, or exhaust gasses themselves. to be drawn into the cooling air stream. Cracked/Broken heat exchangers, damaged exhaust gaskets - can cause hot exhaust gases to be drawn into your cooling air or even worse, right through the heating system int the cabin Heat exchangers are "open" and disconnected - you're passing air through the heat exchangers then venting them into the air beneath the vehicle where they can get drawn right back into the engine's cooling air stream. The cooling air intake "scoops" could be blocked or obstructed by something. (Do you use the extra space in the engine compartment for storage, or extra features - is it blocking cooling air flow? A previous owner has installed an aftermarket oil cooler that's installed in the cooling air flow. ie, an external engine oil cooler has been installed in the engine compartment and is dumping heat into the cooling air. Missing main engine seal around the engine in the engine bay, can cause hot exhaust or heated air near the exhaust to be pulled into the cooling, a missing or damaged decklid seal can make it hard for the cooling fan to work when the vehicle is moving at speed. the grommets/seals around the intake preheater tube are missing/damaged. the preheat tube could be compromised, dumping hot exhaust gasses into the intake (not impossible, but unlikely) etc, etc, etc and perhaps the most common (or at least very common) cause of overheating on the type 1 engine: a loose fan belt then there are the factors that aren't at all related to the cooling system driver is pushing the vehicle too hard timing is too far advanced driving into strong head-winds there's too much stuff on the roof or driver driving with the pop-top open brake drag bearing replacement(s) needed tires all well underinflated it's too hot out, etc... etc the flaps are still the 'feature' designed to help your engine get hot fast, and are, in my opinion, the most likely culprit for your unexplained overheating. peace jules '75. 78 westies, troy ny
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